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 04-18-2004, 09:08 Post: 83498
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Even capitalistic economist realize that that certain factors are beyond economic controls. Were the combines acts to limit monopolies bad?
I can not see where health care has any economic restrictions on it. If a person is in need he either does without compounding the problems or goes in a pays for the best care he can afford.
The term health care is a misnomer in this country. With obesity at epidemic proportions, which doctors are trying to treat the root cause, rather than the sympoms and make money. This task will ultimately fall on the government to try and correct eating habits. So the health care system will fail.
Our life expectancy in the US with the most money spent per capita is 3 years on average less than Canada and Japan. Obviously just throwing money at a problem will not necessarily bring the best results.
The doctors who are there to try and run the health care system and get rich are dying younger than the rest of the population.
What percentage of health care expenses are out of the government budget? 20%? We have medicare, VA care, etc. The poor, old and military are covered. We spend more than anyone yet 60 million people have no coverage and if something large does happen then the insurance company is likely to ask you politely or impolitely to enter the governments domain. If you don't believe me then just ask around I am sure you have a few friends like I have that are in this situation.
The AMA is against universal care why? Well Morgan and the boys were dead set against the combines acts. Despite business abuses that people would be charged for in other fields such as conflict of interest. The medical field has carried on with few realizing what is going on.
Finally how is the lack of health care effecting employment and our competitiveness in the world economy. Personally my family of 4 bill is near 16K between premiums and medicare tax. The average family income in the state is not much more than that. With drugs and technology thrown at patents to cover problems rather than cures I don't see it the cost spiral ending.






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 04-18-2004, 16:27 Post: 83528
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Ken;
I agree there are problems with the current and other systems but I guess I am not willing to admit that we are too ignorant not to be able devise a more economical and healthy system.
Concerning the Canadians entering the American system some of this is just centers of excellence in one field or other. You have to realize that in BC there are just 4 million people in an are 2 times the size of texas. The nearest Canadian centre to Vancouver is 600 miles away in Calgary. It is certainly easier to travel to Seattle or Portland. On the flip side I meet Californians and every one else traceling to Birmingham UAB for treatment. Don't Californians have enough doctors there? They have the same population as Canada.
If 50% of the funds is misused by the government system what is used buy the patch work of insurance companies? I have two friends that have private practices. I would say both have an equal volume of patents. The one in Ontario employes one nurse and his wife part time to cover the accounts. My friend in MA has about 8 employees and his wife to cover the accounts. Why the extra employees? To cover the mountain of paper work required by the different insurance companies. How can this be cost effective?






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